I have scene the future…

To think: All those years I was called the "socialist" columnist at the Arizona Republic, that it would come to this. Me, standing alone as the only defense of capitalism against the Red Tide. That was my role, at least, in a recent debate held by Socialist Alternative at Seattle University and attended by I'd guess about 100 people. Yes, this was one of those "only in a blue state" moments. The two or three socialists in Arizona are distinguished by carrying meek .357 magnum or smaller caliber weapons. These were real socialists, or socialist-curious.

They were very nice and polite, only booing me when, at a snoozy moment, I said that all who voted for Nader in 2000 could thank themselves for the "election" of George W. Bush. I had warned the organizers that I would not exactly be, well, a "Goldwater" Institute sock puppet in a debate over whether "free market capitalism" had failed in the recent crash. Of course it did, but as Voltaire would say, define your terms. Were I fit and twenty-five, I would seriously consider moving to a social democracy in northern Europe. Even this, however, seemed to qualify me to stand in defense of what my debate partner continued to derisively call "neoliberalism" (neoliberalism, neoconservatism…Neo is always bad except in The Matrix, where he gets to kiss Carrie-Anne Moss, too).

I'm happy to report that the republic (if not The Republic) is safe. Nobody marched off behind red banners to tear up the cobblestones and attack the ruling class. As far as I could tell, the program of this particular organization called for a state takeover of the 500 largest companies, which would be run by workers' committees (i.e., soviets, before Stalin ruined things). A revolution would be necessary rather than reform "around the edges." I pointed out that in revolutions, many innocents are killed and except in one case, 1776, successful revolutions trend toward the murderously radical. This was brushed off against two centuries of real and imagined American crimes against the world. The only time I was truly offended was when my opponent belittled the hundreds of thousands of American soldiers who died to liberate the world from totalitarianism in World War II. No, the Red Army did that, he emphasized, incomplete to say the least in his understanding of history.

My points were fairly concise: The system I would stand up for is what evolved in America from the 1940s through the 1970s. It included a strong and secure middle class, excellent education, social and economic mobility, a relatively strong labor movement, and checks and balances on corporate power and dynastic wealth. Among these were progressive taxation, strong anti-trust enforcement, regulation of key industries, especially finance, and less of a role of corporate money in politics. But minorities were oppressed in this era! Yes, and in the same era that oppression began to lift, especially in the law, precisely because of the America we had become. Today we live off the fumes of this American apogee, in everything from infrastructure to the intergenerational wealth and remnants of government safeguards that kept the past two years from becoming another Great Depression or worse.

Labels frustrate me. "Conservatives" don't want to conserve anything, have no respect for tradition or gradual change. They scream SOCIALISM!! over any mouse in the kitchen today, even though most red states are net takers of tax money, dependent on federal spending, including for defense programs and bases. They are using the defense of Medicare, which they really oppose, to scare seniors off from health care reform (which even Richard Nixon tried to implement).

It's not a "free market" when the economy has been rigged by big corporate money to, in fact, thwart the competition, regulation and economic mobility without which a real market economy can't remain healthy. As for "neo" (without Carrie-Anne), it's hard to link that with liberalism, whether classical or that of the New Deal through the Great Society. What we've witnessed the past 30 years is a steady takeover of the government and economy by the moneyed elites, increasingly without any loyalty to place or nation. This has been combined with a deeply flawed world trading system, again made by lobbyists in Washington not by God. We have also seen the creeping theocracy of America described by Kevin Phillips and Jeff Sharlet; the creeping idocracy throughout a culture that doesn't learn history or civics. The resulting deindustrialization, income gulf, stagnation of wages and dependence on bubbles, especially in housing, is no system I will defend. It is, however, a very real revolution that has already happened. And Americans voted for it, from the ballot box to patronizing Wal-Mart instead of a local merchant on a real Main Street.

My socialist friends were the real deal, "commanding heights" and all. I didn't find their solutions persuasive. Reform or even social democracy is too sissified. Well, seize the 500 largest companies and watch the exodus of capital to the rest of the world, especially China. A bunch of workers' soviets running the Fortune 500 might not do worse than the obscenely paid CEOs of present, but that's a low bar. Pretty soon the members would wonder why their dollars are worthless. Or see their plants taken over by the debt collectors of the People's Liberation Army. And even though communism in Russia created its own privileged class (the nomenklatura), this time it would be different? Alas, men are not angels, to paraphrase James Madison, who I will take over Leon Trotsky. The latter was oddly evoked by my socialist opponent as a hero; he apparently was ignorant of, or wishing away, the fact that Trotsky was a committed Bolshevik who would have had the entire room liquidated, with perhaps the exception of me as a "useful idiot" (Lenin's characterization of liberals). Eugene V. Debs offered America a humane socialism but never received more than about 6 percent of the presidential vote. He was thrown in prison for his trouble by Woodrow Wilson. Debs was finally freed and welcomed at the White House by Warren Harding, who is remembered harshly by history.

As I've written before, the left, such as it is, never can get its act together. It can't settle on a few likely successes that would help large numbers of people and push them through. The center-liberal forces are in similar disarray today, as the health care fiasco attests. The right only says "tax cuts" and it resonates, along with the conservatives' years of indoctrination about "government, bad." In fact, the real left has never been much of a force in America, certainly not after the 1930s. The real left had legitimate grievances against corporate power and bad trade deals at the WTO conference/battle in Seattle a decade ago, but they were badly articulated and few in America listened. I also didn't make the socialists happy when I said they needed a Ronald Reagan.

At the end of the evening, however, I would have been hard-pressed to decide who was more deluded: the local socialists, or the rest of America, which is just hoping to resume sprawling, shopping and ignoring the world like it's 1999, or 2005. The America that wants to revive the unsustainable and doesn't see the peril to their lives and those of their children by climate change and peak oil, and the deeper global instability that will bring. The America that thinks it can win the lottery or the big stakes out on the rez, rather than painstakingly rebuilding a productive economy. The America that's not rushing to the barricades to push back the revolution of the economic royalists and have a moment of clarity about the cost of wars without end — or at least prepare for a very different future than the recent past.

At least the debate didn't take too many evenings.

11 Comments

  1. soleri

    As loony as the left can be, there’s a greater problem when the left is so marginal that a Barack Obama becomes a socialist stick figure in the imagination of Birdbrain America. Call Obama a pragmatist, or an incrementalist, or even a liberal. He has in much in common with a socialism as Ronald Reagan.
    Our ongoing political conversation leans right because there’s no left to speak of. It’s why the center is now embodied by corporate lackeys like Mary Landrieu and Ben Nelson. It’s why even the most painstakingly minor reforms are treated as The Thousand Mile March. This country is poltically insane because pragmatism is now equated with confiscatory taxation and bureaucratic death panels.
    The beautiful losers in Seattle, Eugene and Arcata dream impossible dreams but it’s their irrelevance that damages this country most. If 20 to 30% of America was left, there would be a counterbalance to the right that effectively leveraged real social democracy in this country. That populism is almost exclusively the province of right-wing tribalists means a country addicted to bromides and bullshit that would embarrass Milton Friedman.

  2. Steve M.

    Thanks again, Jon, for sharing your insight. Excellent reading.

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  4. Emil Pulsifer

    Mr. Talton wrote:
    “My socialist friends were the real deal, “commanding heights” and all.”
    There is a huge range of socialist and so-called socialist schools of thought.
    There are (or were) Christian Socialists, Fabian Socialists, anarcho-syndicalists (aka the IWW or Wobblies), populist socialists, non-Marxist revolutionary socialists, marxist revolutionary socialists, marxist gradualists (non-revolutionary), traditional democratic socialists (e.g., Debs, Michael Herrington), libertarian marxists (e.g., Rosa Luxemburg) Mensheviks, Bolsheviks, and countless other varieties.
    In my opinion, socialism is first and foremost an economic system, and while political movements may be driven by platitudes, economies cannot be. To paraphrase H.G. Wells (himself a socialist) writing critically on the Russian Revolution in the early 1920s, this was the time to put into action well-considered plan, not to experiment. There didn’t seem to be any well-considered plan.
    Lenin’s words (in a November, 1913 letter to Maxim Gorky) regarding the latter’s medical problems and treatment, were perhaps prophetic:
    “The news that a Bolshevik is treating you by a new method, even if he is only a former Bolshevik, verily, verily upsets me. God save you from doctor-comrades in general, and doctor-Bolsheviks in particular! But really, in 99 cases out of 100, doctor-comrades are asses…I assure you that except in trivial cases, one should be treated only by men of first-class reputation. To try on yourself the discoveries of a Bolshevik — that’s terrifying!”
    Lenin had had some personal experience of this when his wife’s critically serious goiter problem had earlier gone undiagnosed by a “comrade-physician”.
    Incidentally, the Lenin quote about liberals as “useful idiots” is, I believe, spurious, though indeed, it’s true that Lenin did not trust liberals and that, in fact, his attitude went further than this.
    One thing that has to be born in mind are the specific historical circumstances obtaining in Russia at the time. The country was under the dominion of a quite brutal czarist repression (q.v. Bloody Sunday). There was precious little freedom for political reforms. As a professional revolutionary, Lenin had a sense that liberals would not leave their banquet halls for armed insurrection in the streets, and that once the police and the Czar snarled a firm NO at them, even their flow of words would come to a stop. There was some justification for such a view, both historically and in terms of contemporary events.
    Lenin also was conditioned by early personal experiences. When he was 17 his older brother (whom he worshipped) was arrested. The family lived in Simbirsk where there was no rail line in 1887, and his mother, leaving young Vladimir in charge of the younger children (the father had recently died), had to go by coach to Syrzan to get a train from there to St. Petersburg, where the brother was being held.
    Lenin sought in vain among the local townspeople for a companion for his mother during this journey, but nobody wanted to travel with the mother of an arrested man. (This despite the fact that the family had until then been very popular and influential locally, with many friends and well-wishers.) The home was also shunned.
    Lenin’s wife later wrote: “Vladimir Ilyich told me that this widespread cowardice made a profound impression upon him. This youthful experience undoubtedly did leave its imprint upon Lenin’s attitude toward the Liberals”.
    These things are somewhat more complex than we sometimes realize. In many historical treatments, quotations and actions are taken out of the concrete context in which they occurred, for purposes of political propaganda.
    Currently, I am reading a fascinating book called Three Who Made A Revolution. This is a biographical history of the events in the decades leading up to the Russian revolution(s) of 1917, especially insofar as they intersect the lives of Lenin, Trotsky, and Stalin.
    The author, Bertram Wolfe, was a marvelous writer and brings the events vividly to life in detail, without losing the big picture. Wolfe was one of the founders of the Communist Party, U.S.A. in 1919, becoming in 1928 the representative of CPUSA on the executive committee of the Comintern. He actually knew Trotsky and Stalin personally.
    However, in the same year he was elevated to the executive committee, he broke with Stalin (and the Party) over the latter’s insistence on running things from Moscow. In the 1950s, at about the time the book was first published (1948), Wolfe was Chief of the Ideological Advisory Staff at the Voice of America (a propaganda arm of the U.S. State Department). In later years he worked as a Senior Research Fellow at the Hoover Institute at Stanford University.
    It’s very possible that the book was written with funding from the State Department or (covertly) the CIA. However, if it’s propaganda, it’s of a particularly sophisticated variety, and does not paint Lenin or Trotsky as simple villains. The participants come alive as human beings. Perhaps this is because, in part, the book deals with events leading up to the revolutions of 1917 rather than afterwards.
    I highly recommend it to anyone interested in the subject. I have the 1964 edition, which contains some modifications of the original text in response to criticisms that in its original form the author “presented the Mensheviks as too doctrinaire, and Lenin as somewhat less despotic and totalitarian than in the end he proved to be”. If my perceptions are correct, these modifications involve primarily some editorializing by the author in response to political pressure; these rudely interrupt the detached flow of the original narrative, in spots.
    Incidentally, the first 10 or so pages of the book are dry as dust, being a thumbnail sketch of Russian political development in the centuries prededing the 19th. Don’t let this fool you: once you get past this, it’s wholly absorbing.
    My personal view is that “socialism” is a glorious idea but a work in progress; that it will indeed eventually prove to be the “highest development of capitalism”; that it will have little in common with the the societies of so-called socialist countries of the 20th century.
    I am not a member of any group or an adherent of any doctrine or faction, but rather an eclecticist. Many of these groups are small because they consist of quibbling formalists and factionalists, the ignorant, the doctrinaire, the hopelessly utopian, or the brutally dictatorial.
    Note also that Lenin’s Party structure was originally conceived as a tool for the organization of professional revolutionaries to overthrow the Czar. It was not supposed to constitute the revolutionary provisional government. As Lenin himself wrote in 1905 in objection to Trotsky’s calls for the establishment of a socialist, provisional revolutionary government:
    “Only the most naive optimists can forget how little as yet the masses of the workers are informed of the aims of socialism and the methods of achieving it. And we are all convinced that the emancipation of the workers can only be brought about by the workers themselves: a socialist revolution is out of the question until the masses become class-conscious, organized, trained, and educated…Whoever wants to achieve socialism by any other path than that of political democracy will inevitably arrive at absurd and reactionary conclusions both political and economic.”

  5. Emil, you have done yourself proud with this post. A classic, especially for Thanksgiving Day, 2009.
    We’re living thru Lenin’s words.

  6. Emil Pulsifer

    I can’t imagine what Terry Dudas meant in his final sentence, unless it’s the usual wingnut garbage. Is he actually comparing President Obama to Lenin? Is he actually suggesting that the constitutional republic of the United States is comparable to post-October, 1917 Russia?
    The only thing I can imagine is that, over there at GaltNet, they’re so insular that they’ve lost all contact with reality. This must be what the kids mean when they speak of “drinking the cool-aid”.

  7. Emil Pulsifer

    Just a small clarification: by “provisional revolutionary government” above, I meant, not the revolutionary body which was to organize free and fair elections (i.e., universal, direct, equal, and secret suffrage), but the government elected thereby. This was probably a misnomer, as the latter is usually referred to as the post-revolutionary government.
    The idea was that only a revolution could overthrow the czarist government and establish a democratic republic. This would ensure the maximum freedoms (of speech, organization, etc.) to the socialists, who would educate and organize the workers until the proletariat constituted a majority.
    “The constituent assembly must be convened by someone. Someone must guarantee the freedom and fairness of the elections. Someone must invest such an assembly with full power and force. Only a revolutionary government which is the organ of an uprising can in all sincerity desire this and be capable of doing everything to achieve this…
    “However, the evaluation of the importance of the provisional government would be incomplete and erroneous if the class nature of the democratic revolution were lost sight of…This democratic revolution in Russia will not weaken, but will strengthen the domination of the bourgeoisie.”
    (Lenin, Two Tactics, 1905)
    Now, I hope I will be forgiven for posting this, and understood that I am not proselytizing for anyone or anything, but in fact, I find the complexity of actual history much more interesting than the propaganda formulas we learned in school. The subject does not seem altogether off-base given the topic of the blog essay and its contents.
    Obviously it did not work out this way, in the chaotic atmosphere of WW I Russia: perhaps an important lesson against the opportunistic seizure of power contrary to one’s own established principles.

  8. Emil Pulsifer

    Mr. Talton wrote:
    “The center-liberal forces are in similar disarray today, as the health care fiasco attests. The right only says “tax cuts” and it resonates, along with the conservatives’ years of indoctrination about ‘government, bad.’ ”
    Mr. Talton makes a number of valuable observations, as usual. One problem is that the left needs something to rally around, and to be frank, the leadership on this issue has been less than scintillating, unlike Obama’s early campaign rhetoric which suggested that things would be otherwise. (You hold the football, Charlie Brown, and I’ll kick it.)
    To be successful, the administration needed to understand that coverage was only one component of the problem: the underlying, driving issue behind healthcare for the working and middle classes is not so much that of widening coverage (since the majority already receive such coverage) but rather the out of control, upward spiral of healthcare costs.
    Instead, the administration allowed Congress to turn the issue into an insurance reform issue, rather than a healthcare reform issue. Obviously, the use of exclusions, cancellations, and other unscrupulous profit-increasing tactics by the insurance companies is a serious and fundamental problem and the administration was right to use these defects as propaganda points. Yet, without cost control the underlying problem remains.
    Furthermore, solutions which try to push the dirt under the corners of the carpet tend to result in lumps in the middle, especially if your legislation leaves healthcare, insurance, and pharmaceutical industries in control of the broom.
    The administration had the chance to push a single payer system as the best means to solve all of these problems, using the campaign to educate both Congress and the public, fighting tooth and nail and without compromise.
    Then, and only then, if the support simply didn’t materialize, a compromise bill which included a strong public option would have appeared attactive by comparison, to many of the fence-sitters, who by this time would be both better informed and, having narrowly averted the dreaded single-payer system, would have looked at a strong public OPTION with something akin to relief.
    Any bargainer knows that the initial offer will be countered by an offer considerably less than the opening offer. In circumstances under which you have a Democratic president and a (near or actual) supermajority in Congress, you should start by asking for the best possible outcome, stick with that as long as possible, using the process to educate and CONVINCE as many of the fence-sitters and (if possible) your opponents as possible, both in Congress and among the public, and let your weaker opponents sweat and try to cajole you into accepting something a bit less.
    If they succeed, they’re much more likely to believe they’ve accomplished something, than if you start with a lowball offer, under the rubric of a non-existent bi-partisanship, which allows the opposition party and the minority within your own party to set the bar.

  9. hmmm,,,,, still explaining Jon Talton to us, are you?
    BTW, Emil, I am a MS, and Galtnet is my motto. You got that correctly.

  10. Emil Pulsifer

    An “MS”? What does that stand for? Milieuschadelijkheid? I agree! In any case, you certainly aren’t an English major. How could “Galtnet” be a “motto”? Perhaps you mean that Ayn Rand is your inspiration, or some such. Atlas shrugged, and so do I: as P.T. Barnum once remarked, there’s one born every minute.

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